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neil: why should they be unionize? why is it a given everyone be part of a union? >> if a majority people don't then there is no union neil: i thought you have no choice? >> but if the majority being represented did not want to me they could vote to leave the union. neil: easier said than done. many have said it will follow the same trajectory. >> in indiana the results have been fantastic. that is what the states need indiana gets it. it will be beneficial to the people of the argument as against those the represent. neil: of south carolina is right to work with 10 percent unemployment. >> right to work states have a much better economic record the those divorces union. south carolina is doing well. they make the world class airliners private sector job growth is being created. >> it is a sneak attack they tried to get this done but i the line. the governor was right when he said it is not appropriate. neil: think you both for your time. getting the nobel peace prize and what is the fuss? isn't this a preview? for many, nexium helps relieve heartburn symptoms caus
neil: why should they be unionize? why is it a given everyone be part of a union? >> if a majority people don't then there is no union neil: i thought you have no choice? >> but if the majority being represented did not want to me they could vote to leave the union. neil: easier said than done. many have said it will follow the same trajectory. >> in indiana the results have been fantastic. that is what the states need indiana gets it. it will be beneficial to the people of...
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union thugs beat the crap out of people -- >> bob: union thugs? >> eric: and teachers are -- >> greg: what do you call dish >> dana: you call people scabs and you are upset someone says union thugs? >> andrea: how can you have it both ways? you are a tough group that put the giant inflatable rafts in front of the construction projects or nonunion construction par projects across the country or you're now a little victim who can't help themselves and everyone else is -- you're a big group that go on people's houses in wall street and bully those people and trespass. and overwhelm them and -- >> bob: wall street does that. >> andrea: where are the unions? >> dana: the unions did have an effective and important role in past. but i also think that other -- as companies have had to evolve, the unions need to evolve as well. they are getting terrible advice right now and there are ways to work with the governor, what only has their best interest in mind. what else does he want? why else would he do it? why? why? >> eric: >> bob: it brings people in to t
union thugs beat the crap out of people -- >> bob: union thugs? >> eric: and teachers are -- >> greg: what do you call dish >> dana: you call people scabs and you are upset someone says union thugs? >> andrea: how can you have it both ways? you are a tough group that put the giant inflatable rafts in front of the construction projects or nonunion construction par projects across the country or you're now a little victim who can't help themselves and everyone else...
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so is this the end for unions? joining me now is the the director of labor policy at mack kin gnaw center, who has been at the protests site all day. we have mark brenner, director of labor notes. vinnie, what do you make of what went on today? >> melissa, thanks for having me on. it is absolutely historic. you're talking about the state with the 52-week highest percentage of union members in the country. the birthplace of the uaw. for what has been long considered a union strong hold, giving workers the freedom to choose. freedom to choose whether or not to pay a union and still keep their jobs. this will have national ramification. this is very historic day both for michigan at country. melissa: mark, is there aniable positive way to spin this for the union side? >> of course not. this is union-busting move by lame duck legislature. this is puppet marching to the beat of puppet tease, dick devs of amway who want to hurt unions. melissa: did they succeed? is there a way to battle back. >> of course we have ability
so is this the end for unions? joining me now is the the director of labor policy at mack kin gnaw center, who has been at the protests site all day. we have mark brenner, director of labor notes. vinnie, what do you make of what went on today? >> melissa, thanks for having me on. it is absolutely historic. you're talking about the state with the 52-week highest percentage of union members in the country. the birthplace of the uaw. for what has been long considered a union strong hold,...
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the union folks suggested that the non-union folks should have gotten union labor. maybe it would not have fallen down. the police came in. we are okay at the moment. all call. connell: right now to corn prices. dagen: sandra smith has today's trade. sandra: influence is everything we do on a day-to-day basis. goldman is out with a big call. let me just give you some perspective. we have had three years of smaller corn crop. inventories are now at 839 year low. we have fallen about 14%. goldman is calling for an average price of 723 a bushel. they are calling for an average of 825 a bushel. that is another dollar gain from where we are today. if you look at a ten year chart, just to give you some perspective, there was a long time when core prices were a dollar 50 a bushel. how you can play this in the stock market. dagen: thank you, sandra smith. connell: we are waiting to hear from the speaker of the house, john boehner. dagen: stay right here on fox business and you will hear the speaker speak coming right up. ♪ dennis: i am dennis kneale. cheryl: i am cheryl c
the union folks suggested that the non-union folks should have gotten union labor. maybe it would not have fallen down. the police came in. we are okay at the moment. all call. connell: right now to corn prices. dagen: sandra smith has today's trade. sandra: influence is everything we do on a day-to-day basis. goldman is out with a big call. let me just give you some perspective. we have had three years of smaller corn crop. inventories are now at 839 year low. we have fallen about 14%. goldman...
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and that's how unions -- that's how unions survive. and thrive. so, yeah. this is going to be something that we're going to be talking about tomorrow and in the months and probably years to come. i can't remember who said it to you earlier. also, in the program today that, you know, michigan could be the model for the country. >> something that the uaw and its supporters do not want to take place. jonathan, of course we don't know whether tomorrow's the day when we have a resolution of the fiscal cliff. kent conrad said earlier it's too soon and involve -- permit too much time for the advocates to take time at it. thank you very much. we'll talk to you tomorrow i hope. that does it for this edition. tomorrow we have a big show. congresswoman rogers, chair of the house republican conference, former obama foreign policy adviser, former pentagon advis r adviser, "the washington post" eugene robinson and oliver stone. tamron hall is right here. >> hey there, andrea. great to be in d.c. an it is your town. we'll talk about when's happening. another town, michiga
and that's how unions -- that's how unions survive. and thrive. so, yeah. this is going to be something that we're going to be talking about tomorrow and in the months and probably years to come. i can't remember who said it to you earlier. also, in the program today that, you know, michigan could be the model for the country. >> something that the uaw and its supporters do not want to take place. jonathan, of course we don't know whether tomorrow's the day when we have a resolution of...
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to that union, i have got to join the union to get the job. why should i therefore have to pay money to that union? >> what is un-american is what you are suggesting, right to work. let me explain why it is un-american -- [talking over each other] >> nobody is denying the right to work. i'm trying to explain to you what you are saying is not democratic and un-american. this country is a democracy. majority rule. if the majority in a company vote to be in a union than that is what that is just like if you live in new york or l.a. and saying you are going to pay taxes in that city. you might not like the administration of government, you might not like -- you will pay city taxes or you can move out of the city. you can change the process and get involved in the same way -- stuart: i understand point. [talking over each other] stuart: voting to make michigan a right to work state. that is the democratic process. that is what is happening here. >> these people on lawfully legally expressing their opinion today. we have a mess on our hands. stuart:
to that union, i have got to join the union to get the job. why should i therefore have to pay money to that union? >> what is un-american is what you are suggesting, right to work. let me explain why it is un-american -- [talking over each other] >> nobody is denying the right to work. i'm trying to explain to you what you are saying is not democratic and un-american. this country is a democracy. majority rule. if the majority in a company vote to be in a union than that is what...
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and that of course has raised the ire of union supporters and union members. we'll get back to mike tobin in just a moment who's live in the middle of all of that. martha: we also want to get to this morning. there is new controversy surrounding catherine bigelow movie about the hunt and killing of osama bin laden. you first remember conservatives were claiming that classified information may have been used to make this movie, "zero dark thiry". but this time now that the movie is about to be released some liberals are speaking out and taking aim at what they're calling the glorification of torture in this movie. here is a clip from "zero dark thiry". >> can i be honest with you? i am bad news. i'm not your friend. i'm not going to help you. i'm going to break you. any questions? martha: i think a lot of people are looking forward to seeing this and seeing how it depicts the raid that killed usama bin laden. a huge moment in the history of our country of course. i'm joined by pete hegseth, u.s. army veteran and ceo of concerned veterans for america. >> thank y
and that of course has raised the ire of union supporters and union members. we'll get back to mike tobin in just a moment who's live in the middle of all of that. martha: we also want to get to this morning. there is new controversy surrounding catherine bigelow movie about the hunt and killing of osama bin laden. you first remember conservatives were claiming that classified information may have been used to make this movie, "zero dark thiry". but this time now that the movie is...
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so i have seen companies with unions and without unions and unions trying to come in. i have been through pretty much a whole shebang. i ended my career as a vice president of engineering. my thoughts, from seeing all this, from an independent point of view, is the company should offer profit sharing to the people. if they want to give everybody a piece of the pie, give them some profit-sharing, because i have seen people go years without pay. selective people get higher pay because they are liked, etc.. host: what do you think that would do, for company to do that, what happens to them over time? what is the benefit of profit sharing? caller: the benefit is the better the workers do, the better the company does. everybody does better. it's very simple. but if i could say one more thing, you previously had the thing about representatives in , people coming up against john boehner. apparently there is a union forming within the republican congress to oust their leader, their boss. so that is an independent point of view. host: all right, some other headlines. the washin
so i have seen companies with unions and without unions and unions trying to come in. i have been through pretty much a whole shebang. i ended my career as a vice president of engineering. my thoughts, from seeing all this, from an independent point of view, is the company should offer profit sharing to the people. if they want to give everybody a piece of the pie, give them some profit-sharing, because i have seen people go years without pay. selective people get higher pay because they are...
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employment of the union dues and take it and give it to the union. that is that. legislature in michigan are classes that is not an recognizes the not to associate, they can do whatever union they want, and seek to bargain collectively but it can't force people to join them or support them financially. tracy: isn't this about political donations at the end of the day? they go from your paycheck to his. >> the unions have gotten into a seductive dance with the politicians. we will get you in office, you get us more people paying dues. we will use the dues to contribute to your campaign, you will get those from us come you keep doing this. the loss o laws that force peopo join our unions so we have more money to share with you. it is reprehensible because it takes away basic human right, the right to choose whether or not to join the union. ashley: what are the unions frightened of? so they will be backing out. >> they are afraid of the symbolism. this is motown, this is detroit, this is the heart of the american automobile industry. ashley: the union
employment of the union dues and take it and give it to the union. that is that. legislature in michigan are classes that is not an recognizes the not to associate, they can do whatever union they want, and seek to bargain collectively but it can't force people to join them or support them financially. tracy: isn't this about political donations at the end of the day? they go from your paycheck to his. >> the unions have gotten into a seductive dance with the politicians. we will get you...
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dues and give it to the union. that is money that you are entitled to going to an organization that you choose not to belong to. there is something called the first amendment, freedom of speech and association and that means not to associate . for generations, the states have trampled this right now . the right is resurgent again and as we can see from wisconsin, last year and from michigan today, the right -- >> gretchen: i believe indiana last year and now you have 24 states that decided to do i find it interesting though in the election, michigan people voted for president obama in that state, but they are fractured in that sense. they voted for something he is violently against . he was in the stump in michigan saying you should never let this happen and it is bad for the voters. >> sometimes the voters are more sophisticated than we give credit for. clearly the democratic party nationally and in michigan favor collective bargaining but voters in michigan decided to have individual rights. >> gretchen: but will
dues and give it to the union. that is money that you are entitled to going to an organization that you choose not to belong to. there is something called the first amendment, freedom of speech and association and that means not to associate . for generations, the states have trampled this right now . the right is resurgent again and as we can see from wisconsin, last year and from michigan today, the right -- >> gretchen: i believe indiana last year and now you have 24 states that...